Tuesday, November 17, 2009

Why do people say that Pete Rose is a better hitter than Ichiro?

Has anyone had as many hits as Ichiro in any 6-7 consecutive years? Does he hold the all time 6-7 year hit and run records? I am not talking about first 6-7 years. I am talking about any 6-7 years. Everyone says that Pete Rose is a much better hitter than Ichiro. I checked the records, Pete didn't even come close to having a record like Ichiro in any straight 6-7 year period. How can you say that Pete Rose is the best hitter if he has lower records and runs out on the field as a "dinosaur" with low numbers just to add up extra hits to his all time record. Plus, when the subject comes up, everyone starts talking about RBIs when asked if he is the best hitter of all time????????Please explain how a lead off hitter is supposed to run up his RBI numbers to compare to other great hitters? How does Ichiro compare to other lead off hitters on RBIs. He might be number one in RBIs for a lead off hitter. Someone should check the stats on that one.

Why do people say that Pete Rose is a better hitter than Ichiro?
Rose was barely a .300 lifetime hitter. Anyone who says he was a better hitter than Suzuki is looking at career stats and not peak performance. Rose was never the best, or even the second-best, player on his own team. At times, he wasn't even the third-best.
Reply:Rose only got over 200 hits in 10 seasons of play, and Suzuki has yet to have a year without getting 200. However, so many fans will be won over by Pete Rose's "blue collar" appeal. I've learned from experience that when a fan says that they like a player because they're "blue collar" or "lunchbucket" guys, it generally means that they like them because they are white.
Reply:I don't know who says that, I certainly don't. I think they are pretty even though.





About Rose not averaging 200 hits a year for his career you are right. However, Rose came up and had to develop like every other player did. He had 200 or more hits 10 times which is great, and I'm sure if you looked at his stats from 1965-1980, his prime, you would find his average was over 200 hits a year. Like most players, he tailed off at the end, dragging his average down.





Ichiro, on the other hand, came here a star, already in his prime. His main weapon is his speed and I know that at least one year he had over 50 infield hits, which speaks more to his speed than his hitting prowess. Check out Rose's doubles and triples totals, they blow Ichiro's away, it's not even close.





Also, check out Rose's hit totals from 1965-1973, very impressive. Don't forget Rose played several years of his career in the 1960s, when pitching ruled, and when Carl Yastrzemski won a batting title hitting .301. It's very difficult to compare players from different eras, and both are or were great hitters.
Reply:Saying Pete Rose was not as good as Ichiro because of how many hits he averaged per year is rediculous. Thats like saying Hank Aaron is not as good as all of the guys that have hit 50+ HRs in a season, (Brady Anderson, Albert Belle, Greg Vaughn) to name a few, just because he never did it. Ichiro is a good hitter, I can't deny that but his career will be a far cry from Pete Roses'. Pete Rose is not only the career hit leader but he could also do it from both sides of the plate (switch hitter). There is only one other switch hitter with 3000+ hits, Eddie Murray.
Reply:I have always thought that Ted Williams was the best all time hitter. Or how about Tony Gwynn?
Reply:No matter how much Mlb tries to act as if his accomplishments mean nothing Rose is the hit king. That can never be taken away.
Reply:I've loved Ichiro since I've first seen him at a game (2002) %26amp; always will. And yes, I DO think Ichiro is better. Sue me. Go Ichi!





Pete Rose:


http://www.peterose.com/stats.htm





Ichiro:


http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?pla...





You tell me!!!
Reply:Rose has over 4,000 hits no one will ever come close to that......so yeah rose is better then Ichiro
Reply:Cuz he is Clown.
Reply:Because Pete Rose IS a better hitter than Ichiro.
Reply:Because he didn't come from Japan when he was thirty, so he played here longer.
Reply:best hitter all time is more then just singles, sure ichiro is 1st batter his job is to get singles so others can hit him in, and 1st batter gets atleast 50 more AB a season. Rose had other worries then just getting to 1st. But the main reason ROSE is better is because ichiro has only done it for 6 1/2 years, if he can keep doing it for 15 more years then he has a chance, thats like Griffey in the 90's everyone started talking about him being the best player/slugger, then look what happend.
Reply:Rose had over 4,000 hits in his career. A little quick math shows that he had to have had 200 hits per year for 20 years. True it is a record for longevity, but a record all the same.





Also remember that the pitching Rose faced was much better than the diluted pitchers we have now.


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